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CONCLUSION
Overall the puzzle is fitting together. We’re starting to grasp things on a far deeper level. That being said, this “deeper level” is actually less complicated than the level we visited prior. The further you go, the simpler things become! It sounds crazy, I know. But everything just begins to look so clear, and you finally understand what you need to do!
And none of it involves following anyones particular method. That’s right, we’re breaking away. This doesn’t come from a place of conceit. I want to make that very clear. This comes from a place of understanding and the yearning to learn. The various methods available for students of seduction to select from are VERY helpful and have gotten many, many men laid.
We are breaking away for a very real, and overlooked reason. The methods take away from who you really are. The material out there teaches you how to pickup like STYLE would, or how MYSTERY would. If you keep using a method that works for someone else, the only way you’ll get good is if you become that person! Just look at how Matador has practically “become” Mystery.
The methods give you material to use so you’ll Be Interesting. As everyone knows by now, interesting turns into “attractive” very quickly. But many men get stuck on using the same material everyone else uses, and they seem to be O.K. with that. O.K. with the fact that there are hundreds if not thousands of men out there who are JUST THE SAME kind of interesting. using JUST THE SAME lines. There is a piercing false reality to all of this. And it’s a falseness Demetri and I aren’t ready to settle with. In fact I don’t think we’ll ever be ready to “settle with it.”
To become truly good with women, and to truly build a better life. Isn’t reciting someone else’s lines, or following someone else’s checklist. It’s learning about who YOU are. What it is that YOU want. Once these two are perfectly clear, you’ll begin to attract it. Everything you desire will become magnetically charged for you. It can be quite scary actually.
There’s no struggle, There’s no false sense of self. There’s only a calming peace in knowing what you want to become, and knowing what kind of help you want to offer humanity. The community has given us the tools to know what NOT to do. It’s time we all put those tools to good use and developed our own unique style of pick-up. Look at the masters out there and new ones sprouting – do they become masters by cloning into someone else’s mind? Or by devising their own system that works personally for them! Think about it.
If seduction truly is about giving the woman a mind blowing experience, and being the best man you can be. Then I want to do this MY way. Not Mystery’s way, Not Styles way, Not Mehows way, My way! And it’s a “way” I’m continually learning with each passing breath I take.
Sincerely,
Jack Coxwell
ps. don’t confuse my writings and mistake them. I’m NOT passing off the methods as garbage or bad. Many of the lessons they teach are insanely helpful! I’m simply saying I don’t desire to clone my self into the men teaching them, as many men will shamefully deny being guilty of. Just look at how every guy in the “community” uses the same language! They all run around using words like “chode.” When ever I hear a guy call someone a chode I feel like imploding. I can’t tell one guy in the community apart from the other! They all sound identical! I’m seriously frightened.
Nervese body language?
Look at his leg moving, 06.10 Haha.
Great videos btw! I love them
hey have you guys ever tried going direct, it seems like most of this stuff is all indirect, which, dont get me wrong, it definaly works, but going direct is so much more fun. I really like the games though, like to get over approach anxiety, thats good stuff.
Great stuff, I believe a lot of the materials that the “gurus” teach are the fundamentals and using the materials is great if your starting out. Like a crutch. Thanks to your videos I now believe I can approach any person and say anything I want to!
Jack, I got a comment for what you said in your conclusion.
Let me explain.
You know what your end goal is, now you’re working towards that goal and you just found out that you need to add your own spices and your own styles and more of who YOU are. That’s great and that’s a huge milestone. I can assure you that realizing that means you’re on the right track to reach that goal.
The funny thing is, once you get near that end goal and you look at the way you’re seducing woman and picking them up, you’re gonna see that you WILL be using 75% stuff that you see in most methods.
The thing is people can tell you what to do all they want, but unless you find out FOR YOURSELF it’s never gonna work, or not as good as when you just imitate like you said.
It’s a true fact, you’re gonna have to re-invent the wheel. But that’s the best way to make it work
Then when you get there you can look at keys to the VIP or read the methods again and see how you can fine tune you’re own styles.
I think that’s the best way to make it work. Most people try to imitate known methods. But they should really make their own; then fine tune with what others have learned.
Cheers
I found it very interesting about what you said about attracting things into your life…you seem like an intelligent person so im recommending this book to you. The richest people in the world have read it and its basically about getting anything you want in life
Its called “As a Man thinketh”
This is 100% real. I’m so glad that internet has people, who write so wonderful, and who don’t lie online.
Hcir3549, Next episode is due shortly! I’m going to put an update up shortly.
Demetri…hands in your pockets again and again, get out of your comfort zone, wear a pink tutu at the mall or my favorite one i used to do. Drive up to a mall and block the entrance…sure people will give you that look “wtf!?!?… where did you get your license..” I know it’s HARD to grow some balls and walk up to a chick and say “hey! can i get a female opinion on something?”
Tell you guys the truth…I have never read or will get info on how to be a pua, or that mystery method bull sh*t… pretty much they tell you, the same stuff, but put it in different words…Just be yourself, women are not scary….but they are psycho’s…know how i got game..? by shopping in a f****** pink tutu at some no name mall 10 hours from where i live
Next episode i want to see some number closes and F*** close as well
Hey, I just wanted to say I think you guys have put together a really cool website and you guys have inspired me to go out there and try some of this stuff myself. One thing that I have to say though is that even in the first video, Jack seemed like a natural to me, even though he said he wasn’t. Jack, on a scale of 1 to 10, how good would you say your game was when you started these missions and how good would you say it is now? (For what it’s worth, I’m about a 2).
Thanks Skinny, you’ve reminded me I need to create a post about what happened to Scott. For your answers, look there
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Just a lil side note:
I wanna recommend Scott checks out Hoobie’s speech on RSD’s Transformations DVD series. I found his speech to be quite an inspiration because he took 11 months to get his first #close!
And two books with exercises that can help (and you can video log these exercises too):
New Psycho Cybernetics – Maxwell Maltz
The Confidence Course – Walter? Anderson
Why are you replacing Scott with this other guy? (no offense other guy).. What happened to Scott happens to a majority of other newbs. You should concentrate more on what he’s going through and figure out ways for him to get through this difficult “inner game” period.
He should not give up. He’s not alone. And as his wing you shouldn’t let him give up nor try to “replace” him!
If Scott, you’re reading this: YOU GOT THIS SHIT! YOU HAVE THE TOOLS TO SUCCEED.
Good luck in your mission boys. You’re doing great and the site looks awesome (from a graphic designer’s perspective)
Gogland… Opening is not enough. “Hello” is an opener, but it’s not enough to get you the girl. The point about value is so on the mark it’s ridiculous. I don’t care what method anyone is following or not following, you have to give a stranger a reason to want to get to know you (that’s value) Especially a woman who may meet 20 guys a night. Every one of them has the balls to “open” her. Ask yourself, do you want to be “the next guy” or do you want to be “the guy” who stands out and sets himself apart in her eyes? Which one do you think is logically more successful? Honestly, that’s what I’d like to see Jack and Dimitri start showing in these videos. What are they doing to set themselves apart other than a clever opener?
Jack, Your decision to not used canned material is great, just make sure that you understand the structure behind the canned material (why it works) so that you can use that structure to create your own methodologies. There is a lot of psychological background behind why these systems work. To abandon the material in favor of using your own stuff – that is congruent with who you are – is a great idea, and honestly, the evolution of this game. But again, just make sure that you are creating your own “material” that has merit and not just abandoning the systems entirely.
I luv what you guys are doing keep up the good work. When is the next episode?
Awesome realisation dude!
Reminds me of the Bruce Lee quote: “Absorb what is useful, discard what is useless, and add what is essentially your own”…
The fact is, practicing a method turns you into a ‘product’ of that method… In order to express yourself as a unique individual, you have to free yourself from set methods… The only way to do that is to first learn the skills, find out what works for you, and then discard them totally. Then your subconscious mind will go to work and apply these skills natural in your unique natural self… Thats the best way to go.
I’m glad people are starting to realize this… There is no set way to attract ladies…Key component… Confidence, confidence and more confidence… A person who’s confident wouldn’t be afraid to approach, get blown out, ask for the number or kiss close… This is what PUA builds us towards but really, its all about self belief and confidence… Believe in yourselves and theres really nothing we can’t possibly achieve…
ok i understand where your coming from; but going up to a girl and telling her to put her number on your phone, trust me there a 100s of ways to start a conversation better. If you are going to go direct, then this is definitely not the way to go, you will not get consistent results (This is basically a huge compliance test, and she doesnt even know you; why should she give you her number. This is what i mean by showing value; if the camera guy would have used a decent situational opener(which i prefer during day game), then followed up with a tease/banter to set the tone, and then started to vibing with her. Then that would have gone a lot better.)
God… the point of an opener is to start a conversation.
Value this value that… having THE BALLS to go up to a girl and ask her straight up is value enough.
Hey camera guy; remember to give value. When you approached the girl asking for her number; you were immediately showing her that you are low value, and seeking value from her.
But hey an opener is an opener, she stopped and responded to your opener; now you just needed a transitional material to follow up with. I usually like to use a good banter, or C&F line. Example when she said why, you could’ve said “Because …I’m the coolest guy you will meet… In the next 40 days.”; then before she can respond follow up with a good story, example “You guys will not believe what happened to me today, i had the craziest thing happen ….”
I dont know if that would have saved the set; but the only way to get better is to try to take the set as far as you can everytime.
Keep up the good work guys; Jack you keep improving dude. btw are we ever going to see Scott again, he can easily become one hell of a pua; he just needs to stick with it and learn from his mistakes. I remember reading a post from Braddock (Who is one of the best out there), where he said that “the first 2,000 approaches don’t count. If you get rejected, who cares you still have 1,999 approaches to go before it even matters. Just know that every time you get rejected, it is another steel plate being added to your armor. Wounds are valuable if want to grow.”
Yeah I totally get what you guys are getting at. When you first start out it doesn’t hurt to learn a few openers or even the structure of “game” so you can generally know where to go. However once you get better you want to become natural so its congruent. I wish you could take a Pickup 101 class, I was an intern for them and they hate all that canned opener shit. They are more natural feeling, instead of teaching you to approach they teach you how to approach comfortably and relaxed. Sorry didn’t mean to change subjects but I really enjoy seeing what you guys are about, real self improvement as opposed to “I just wanna get laid!” but if that happens no one is complaining
V. Snazzy,
I totally agree with what you’ve said! The opinions expressed are simply our unique views. However, for people fresh and new to “game,” you make a fantastic point! I’m more so talking about once you get past the initial “newbie” stage, letting go of those canned lines.
And I’m glad we could offer some inspiration to you! That means a lot
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Hey guys, i first and foremost want to thank you for inspiring me to leave my comfort zone by realizing that every experience is a good one if you learn something from it. As far as the “gurus” its this newbs opinion that they have some merit, but not in what they say but the tone/concept which they do things. I think its the structure thats important. From there original material can be produced using the same theory.
I think its harsh to imply that people who used canned lines become clones (which im sure happens). But from my point of view they are needed (at the beginning) to give guys like myself the hope to get into something like “the game”. I didnt just wake up one morning and think “i can get any chick i want” when past experience has shown me that every girlfriend ive ever had was the friend of one of the girls i was actually interested in. They give confidence, and how ever diluted it might be its still helpful.
PS i disliked mystery’s method. I thought Swingcat put out the best product ive seen to date. Good luck to the both of you
V. Snazzy
hey man. this stuff is too legit to quit. im mad glad i ran into this site b/c this isnt the scripted stuff out there. this is pretty much as real as it gets online, and the fact that ur making it personal is profound. instead of looking up and memorizing canned openers, i should be making my own to coalesce with my style.
good stuff man. good stuff. inspiring sh*t no lie